A Warning to MGTOW: Can you change a Government if you Change Society?

A Warning to MGTOW: Can you change a Government if you Change Society?

As it is normal today to have postal or courier services deliver goods and messages, in times gone by it was normal to hire messengers to deliver messages which were frequently delivered using a horse. One such messenger, on his way to deliver confidential correspondence in the second half of the 18th century, had the bad luck to be struck and killed by lightening just outside Ingolstadt University in Bavaria. When the authorities arrived and opened his papers that were strewn about, they found plans to take over governments, plans to develop poisons and plans to kill people. The authorities interrogated some of the recipients of the messages and what they discovered was that these people were members of a group called the Illuminati (perfectionablists) and what the Illuminati’s goals were.



There is no denying that the Illuminati were a group and that it existed, no matter how much one may think about conspiracy when the name is evoked. However, there is no doubt that they existed. The conspiracy is focused on the facts of how much power did they have, how far did the group’s influence reach, how well were they organized, how many members did they and when they, if they, went out of existence.

What the illuminati understood was that every society determined the shape and the form of its government. A society’s cultures, religions, beliefs, values, morals and geography are what shapes and forms a society’s government.

If you change a society, you automatically change the government. It is just a matter of time. One of the most common and effective ways to change society is mass immigration or migration. There is not time in history where mass immigration or migration has not changed a government.

Then Caption: Pioneer mailman Dutch Ned poses on his horse on Cherry Street. The ca. 1880 view looks east over First Avenue when it was still named Front Street.

Social Revolution

This is what we see taking place today. Our society is changing and inevitably, our system of government is changing.  In the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, they called not for a revolution but a social revolution. They knew they could not establish a new government by going into the street and killing a bunch of people. They knew they could not establish a new government unless they changed society.

Throughout history there have always been men that wanted to rule the world. In recent times we can look at Hitler, Moa Tso Tung and Joseph Stalin to just state a few. Have you ever wondered how these people were able to organize people together to propel them into power? Each of them was not exceptional in any regard in their early lives. Each had an organization behind them, and this organization was always hidden. With the charismatic leader out front, most are distracted by the organization behind these movements. All these organizations can be traced back to May 1st1776 when Adam Weishaupt began an organization at Ingolstadt University in Bavaria, Germany with just a small number of students.

By changing society, you can change governments. If they can’t or do not change society, then they need to eliminate part of society. Again, we have seen this happen throughout recent history, in Vietnam, Cambodia, Russia and China. Communists have stated that at least a third of the American public would need to be eliminated to make communism work in America.

If communism did not change society, then they would initiate a counter-revolution in society, through ruling elite out and then shoot them or kill them. That is standard policy in a civil war, you shoot the loser.

Aims of the Illuminati

The goal of the Illuminati is to change society and they has specific aims to accomplish this:

  • The overthrow of all governments
  • The destruction of private property
  • The deification of sensuality
  • The destruction of religion
  • The death of the individual and nuclear family
  • The state control of children
  • The repudiation of marriage
  • The establishment of a world government

Many of the revolutionaries influenced by Weishaupt had a deep impact on American society:

  • Gracchus Babeuf – can trace Hitler (Nazism) and Stalin (Communism) to him
  • Louis Auguste Blanqui- can trace Hitler (Nazism) and Stalin (Communism) to him
  • Nicole Bonneville – started Circle Social, most important member of Illuminati in France, instrumental to French revolution, responsible changing semantics of words, lived with Thomas Paine and took Thomas Paine’s son and wife with him to America for safety.
  • Philippe Bounarroti — tutored by Weishaupt and was a close friend of Weishaupt
  • Giuseppe Mazzini – leader of the Carbonari
  • Comte de Mirabeau – French pornographer

Jacobin Movement

The Jacobin movement during the Washington and Adams administrations were directed by the French Jacobin movement started and controlled by the Illuminati eventually became what we know today as the Democratic Party. When Philadelphia was the capital of America, the Jacobin were responsible for a riot of over 10,000 people who had taken to the streets looking for George Washington to hang him. If it was not for a yellow fever epidemic that hit Philadelphia, scaring most protesters to go home and stay there until the epidemic subsided, George Washington would have been Lynched.

One of the most secretive of Illuminati groups were the Rosicrucians. They were always aligned relative to who their leaders were. They had a worldwide council of three; Benjamin Franklin, George Clymer and Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine was replaced by Marquis de Lafayette when he went to the United States. At this point the Rosicrucians faded from the public sphere until the Second Council of Three was revived prior to the civil war. The Second Council of Three consisted of Paschal Beverly Randolph, Gen. Ethan Allen Hitchcock of West Point and George Lippard who wrote fictional history books of whose events were eventually put into history books as non-fiction. One such story is the story of the cracking in the liberty bell upon reading the constitution of the United States. Lippard died young and was replaced by Abraham Lincoln. The Rosicrucians were European but they moved their headquarters to the United states and therefore all the leaders were American.

After the Bavarian government outlawed the Illuminati, Weishaupt and many other professors fled north to Göttingen University, Germany and this is where all the racial prejudices of Adolf Hitler were borne and from here can be traced directly to the Nazis. George Bancroft obtained his Ph.D. from here and founded Harvard’s preparatory school Round Hill School and had like-minded individuals hired before becoming secretary of the navy. Here he started Annapolis Naval Academy with no permission at all and for the most part illegally.

Edward Everett was the first American to get a Ph.D. from Göttingen. He delivered the Gettysburg Address for one and a half hours and was the main speaker before Lincoln came out with his short speech. The first thing Everett did when he returned to the US with his Ph.D. was educate Ralph Waldo Emerson.

One of the tactics Weishaupt implemented was that the Illuminati upon discovery are to dive down hidden under the surface and then surface again somewhere else with a different name. This way the same organization can continue again and again. They formed the German Union which would help people get books, reading materials and magazines which were pricey and not easy to obtain in those days. People would pool their money in a small town and purchase subscriptions and books which they would pass around in the town. They have over 500 of these communities in Germany resulting in them being able to control which magazines and publishers could stay in business. They would order books written by their members and would not order the books they did not want. Eventually they started to influence the thinking of the German people. The copied the same concept in America starting American literary societies; the bird club; Radical club; Atlantic club; Saturday club.

The German Union

They started to promote themselves, Longfellow, Emerson, Whittier, Thoreau and Whitman. They formed their own magazines and promoted their own writers. They shut others out. They even went into Christian publishers. There they had two goals. Socialism was a good thing, that socialism was the word of God and to not get involved.

There were several communists that influenced American Politics:

  • Horace Greeley—Karl Marx wrote 500 articles for Greeley’s newspaper
  • Karl Marx—Primary leader of the Communist party
  • Robert Dale Owen—Son of Robert Owen
  • Wendell Phillips—Abolitionist, member of congress, member of Communist International
  • Friedrich Sorge—Leader of the Communist apparatus, came from Germany to New York and ran the Communist international where the Communist HQ was moved to in 1872 and still is there
  • Senator Charles Sumner—Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee, member of Communist international
  • Vitoria Woodhull—Head of section 12 of the Communist international, put together the first Wall Street Journal

Four Methods to Change a Society

The Illuminati use 4 methods to change society:

  • War
  • Terror
  • Economic Collapse
  • Mass immigration

One of the best ways to change society is through war. In the name of the war effort one will put up with almost anything and give away almost everything or anything. People will give up their rights to travel, property and their individual rights to win the war. People will also put up with restrictive taxes. Taxes on cigarettes were implemented during World War II as well as many other taxes and restrictions and were never relinquished after the war. However, to make societal changes it is best if the war is on your soil.


Terror is another way to effect change; in the name of security; in the name of protecting your neighborhood, your home, your citizens you will allow limitations on your freedoms. Look what happened since 911. The US government violates your 4th amendment rights by searching your private records without a warrant. Economic collapse and mass immigration will bring about a change in society as well. However, the best way to affect societal change is war.


How do we bring about a war in the United States? It would be difficult to get England or France to invade the US. A plan was developed to bring about a war inside the United states and we know this war today as the Civil War. To get the war started terrorism was used. Industrialists that financed socialist and terrorists causes include:

  • Andrew Carnegie—Chartist, had to leave England
  • Frederick Engels—Friend of Marx
  • Robert Owen— Started communist communes
  • Gerrit Smith—Park of the Astor empire
  • Cornelius Vanderbilt—Financed Wall Street Journal, sleeping Woodhull’s sister

John Brown, according to his son, was a communist was responsible for the failed raid on Harper’s ferry. It was John Browns botched attempt to take over the armory at Harper’s ferry that led the south to succession as the south thought after this event that the northerners were ready to kill them all. John Brown was used to help create that condition by individuals and organization that can be directly traced to the Illuminati.

He was helped by:

  • First International’s Senator Charles Sumner, Rep. Wendell Phillips and Horace Greeley.
  • Chartist Alan Pinkerton who started the secret service and the Pinkerton Detective Agency. The PDA used the all-seeing eye as their emblem and led to the slogan ‘Private Eye’.
  • Carbonari— Hugh Forbes
  • Skull & Bones—William H. Russell
  • Secret Six
  • Brotherhood of the Union—George Lippard

There were several individuals and organizations that also helped John Brown who fled the US because they thought they would be tried for treason. The only ones that were tried for treason were the ones that were Harper’s Ferry. Several newspapers had reporters riding with John Brown. Some of these newspapers include New York Tribune, New York Evening Post, The New York Times, New York Independent, Boston Traveler, Washing National Era, Chicago Tribune, St. Louis Democrat, Topeka Tribune and Lawrence Kansas Republican.

Some of the individuals and organizations include Kansa Aid Society, Sen. Henry Wilson, Sen. William H. Seward, Sen. John Parker Hale, Attorney General Ebenezer Hoar, Frederick Douglass, Joshua Giddings, Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry Thoreau.

One needs to understand that there were very prominent separatists in both the north and the south who called for the country to be divided into two parts and once the country was separated into two parts the agitators in the north became fervent patriots stating that we can not allow these people to leave and we need to fight a war to keep the union together.

In the south it was different. They called for succession but as soon as succession happened, they became obstructionists, preventing the south from winning the war from within the confederate government, from within the state governments. The governor of Georgia, Brown dismissed 10,000 troops under his command, told them to lay down their arms and go home before Sherman even marched into Georgia. After the war, Brown became one of the richest men in the south as he became an in-place carpetbagger who took advantage of reconstruction and buying up properties pennies on the dollar.


In the north, many European communists can to America and became Generals in the union army. Karl Weydemeyer, a personal friend of Karl Marx, actually hosed him in his house and helped him form the First International, became a general. Many others became generals as well. Gustave-Paul Cluseret was the red general in Paris 5 years after the war. In all, 40 German radicals, many communists, were made generals and 78 more foreign-born were made generals whereas the Confederate Army only had ten foreign-born generals.

Carl Schurz came from communist revolutions in Europe and was made Colonel of the Wisconsin Militia and a trustee of the University of Wisconsin almost immediately. If not a communist, then the closest thing to one. George Sanders, appointed by President Pierce as the US counsel in Rome, hosted a dinner for communist revolutionaries in London with future President James Buchanan where they advocated overthrowing all the governments of Europe and killing all their rulers ending the banquet by singing the Marseilles. When the Senate found out, they would not confirm Sanders as the US counsel in London.

After arriving home, in a speech in New York, he stated that the US needed a revolution and that we should to re-institute the guillotine, but this time we needed it driven by steam. These are just a few examples of the kind of guys the US were sending over seas to represent the US.

Many MGTOW have rightly identified the cannons of Marxism veiled in the edicts of feminism. Indeed, feminists and their lot are nothing more than useful idiots to a higher order of organization, whether they be radicals, identifiers, THOTs, manginas, white knights or vanilla-type simpletons. Leftists tend to be categorized in the same manner, utilized and then discarded in a purge as part of society is eliminated to change society and their vapid, headstrong ideology and illogical loyalty will not be beneficial to the puppeteers which have been calling the shots for centuries.  It needs to be understood, deeply, if MGTOW is exactly what a more mature, powerful organization had in mind.

Indeed, the path of the perfectionablists is paved with a multitude of forks of which they benefit no matter which way they traverse. It is inevitable that MGTOW with its singular, decentralized meshing, bowing out of society and Gatling is contributing to a change in society in a major way. There is no other way but to be agitators of a new form of government whether we want it or not.

Yes, you want to go our own way. However, there are megalomaniacs that want to rule the world and have a dynamic 200+-year plan and they have created a society where half of society just wants to be left alone and the other half will not leave them alone.


It is only a matter of time when MGTOW will be the ‘them’ in a civil war. Our own rose-colored glasses and red-pilled mentality will be the enemy of an inarticulate society. MGTOW is the solution of ostriches that plant their heads in the sand and hoping things just leave us alone. They are not going to leave us alone and it is only a matter of time before you fully realize this. It is time for MGTOW to participate in thicker, deeper thinking.

Many of the ideas in this article are paraphrased from Arthur Thompson.

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